In the Comments section, a student from St. John's - many of you know him as the beloved fan accompanied by his equally beloved friend, Beaker - wrote to say he started the chant I've suggested fans stop. I tried to explain my respectful reasoning in the two posts below, if you just joined us.
Unfortunately, I had to delete the Beak's response because for one brief moment it got indisputably profane.
I find Beaker's explanation to be fascinating, at times a bit disturbing, but just as often brilliant. Seriously. He even includes an email address for all to see. His defense certainly demands your attention as much as my attempt to articulate my position. One thing, folks: let's not make too big a deal of me "trying to tell fans what to do." It's a blog! You think we'd be up to Baumbach-on-Arbour sized responses if I tried to break down the Panthers' penalty killing?
I'm an Islanders fan. I know better, or at least I should have!
For the record, I was asked today by my close friend and colleague Tim Beach if I had an opinion on what the Islanders should do with "Rock and Roll, Part II," the traditional goal song. My input was to keep the song, let the fans have their say and let everything play itself out. It's a free Islanders Country, right?
Anyway, Beaker: here's your Equal Time, minus about four words. It retains its power. Next time, please leave Jagr and profanity out if it. I'll stop by Section 329 tomorrow night. Let me know if I need security detail.
At this rate, this blog might not make it to Thursday night's faceoff.
Throughout the season I have found your blog insightful, expressing your opinion with as little bias as possible. I did not always agree with what you said but still found it to be well-written and informative.
However, I am very upset with this post of yours. I would first like to let you know that Loudville should not be blamed for this chant. I have been a season ticket holder in section 329 for the past two seasons and started it once I had season tickets. While it did not catch on completely right away, it finally has now, and a few fans seem livid. I started this chant and therefore I would like all the hatred people have for me to be emailed to firstname.lastname@example.org.
These people have been calling me classless, spoiled, and immature on several message boards and the comments left here today. Thank You, fellow fans. Now granted this is not anywhere near the best chant that has come out of section 329, but it is a little thing that we started that was able to catch on. This is also a typical sports chant- short, simple and catchy. This is not England where we create full blown songs and get 16,234 to sing along in unison(but it would be nice, I have some ideas). It has been hard enough getting 8,000 fans to chant “Lets go Islanders” in unison.
Secondly, if this chant really has as much hatred as people say, then why has it been so loud lately? It is great to hear a packed house chanting in unison. I am proud to here the coliseum rocking again. In the ‘80s players knew it would be a rough game at the old barn. Fans were dedicated. Fans Cared about there teams, made the place loud, had a good time, and did not worry the other teams or fans feelings after chanting you suck.
Let me tell you more about myself. Everyone who dislikes what I do in 329 seem to enjoy describing me as an immature kid who’s parents spoil him with season tickets and knows nothing about hockey; the kid who just gets drunk to scream throughout the game and the kid with the 5 foot beaker Muppet. Well, my name is John (I think I will withhold my late name just in case anyone attempts to kill me) and I attend St. John's University full time. I work 35-40 hours each week just to be able to purchase my own season tickets and not much else.
Yes, I’ll enjoy one or two before the game, but there has on maximum been 3 occasions where someone in my section had been out of hand. And here’s the best part. We have a high school teacher that sits in our section and warns us when we go too rowdy with the chants.
As I have said, we know that the You Suck during the goal song chant isn’t the best or most original but it does the trick ans helps add a little oomph to the celebration. It gets the place loud and the other team looking around. While it is already loud for the most part when a goal is scored, the crowd’s adrenaline rush because of the goal is a great time to put a little dig into not only the opposing goalie but the whole team. No matter how professional you are, it will still be intimidating having a packed house chant at you. Not only opposing players will be intimidated but opposing fans as well. It happens too often that Islander fans have been out cheered by fans of the Rangers, Canadians, Maple Leafs, and Sabres in our own arena. Hopefully chants like these make us more unified in our own home. People dislike that these game are having too much of a college atmosphere, however most of those seated around us (not students) believe this is more of a good thing.
If you have ever been to a college game rooting for the visiting team, im sure you were somewhat intimidated and fully felt a home- court advantage. Our crowd is much less vulgar than college crowds and has very strict security (SMG) that insures it stays this way.There have been a number of chants more classless than You Suck, yet there was no outrage about them (Crackhead Theo, If you know the Rangers Suck, Green SUCKS - referring to Travis Green). Classless is also throwing bottles on the ice because of a referee's call, not chanting you suck.
If you really are against this chant then by all means stop chanting it, but the only way I will stop this chant is if the Islanders bring me on the road trip out west this week. I am a passionate fan who went to 45 islander games last year, and hopes to make it to 50 this season. There is no better feeling in life than celebrating a goal with people in my section that I have grown to know as family while singing our goal song followed by a shot of You Suck at the other team while they line up for the face off and look up, intimidated at the crowd.
Beaker and the members of Section 329
January 2, 2008 5:57 PM